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When I first seriously got into the fake watch world about seven years ago, there were a few names that I kept hearing over and over again. They were the living legends, the guys you had to know if you were going to get anywhere or actually learn anything. Luckily, I got to know a lot of them pretty early on, and today we've got a great show for you that includes two of them.

First up is our guest, Mr. William Massena, who you might remember from his episode of Talking replica watches back in 2015. You also might know him from his days at Timezone or Antiquorum or Bonhams, or maybe from his spot on the jury of the Grand Prix d'Horlogerie de Geneva. He's been deeply entrenched in the fake watch community for decades and he's someone that I've long known and admired. Whether we're talking about watches, tailoring, French poetry, or some new restaurant, I know I'm going to come out of the conversation better for having had it.

Then we've got our own editor-in-chief, Jack Forster. He's right up there with William in terms of legend status, and when we decided to have William on the show it was a no-brainer that Jack co-host. Between the two of these guys we've got about as much horological knowledge and insight as anyone could ask for, and as you'll see in this episode, I just want to get as much of it out of them as possible.

We hope you enjoy Episode 47 of HODINKEE Radio. Check out the show notes below and let us know what you think in the comments.


I honestly can't remember having ever seen one of these unusual replica watches in the metal before. What you're looking at is an Audemars Piguet Tradition Perpetual Calendar from nearly 20 years ago. This is a strange hybrid of sorts, using a pocket fake watch movement in a wristwatch case that's styled after vintage square/cushion pocketwatch cases from the AP archive. Because of the movement dimensions, the platinum case is 47mm across but just 8.5mm thick, giving it a really unique presence on the wrist. While these were not particularly popular when they were first released, they've become something of a cult classic amongst a certain breed of serious collectors.

Show Notes

1:00Talking replica watches With William Massena

2:45 The Worshipful Company of Clockmakers

6:20 Timezone

24:00Walt Odets

25:30Odets' Replica Rolex Explorer Review

30:00 HODINKEE Radio With Joe Thompson

36:20 The Man Who Loved Women

41:00 Replica Rolex Oyster Perpetual

53:00 Massena Lab

1:04:00 Le Coucou

1:06:00 The Sweet Science

1:07:00 Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Songs

1:07:30 Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Songs playlist

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